November 1998 KOTRV HTML Newsletter

Welcome to all you new subscribers who have joined us over the last month!

So, what's it all about man?

Keep On Truckin' Re-Visited is a moderated newsletter/list about the time between the mid 60s and mid 70s. It was designed to examine and present a positive nostalgia of a time since past. It is also designed to provide a forum for you to share your feelings, thoughts and experiences from that time frame.

Please participate and help this community grow.

Misc.

In regards to my request from the KOTRV Special Report, thanks to all of you who were kind enough to let me know where you had found out about KOTRV. It was a big help. Over the last couple weeks I have had over 100 new subscribers - very cool.

Hope you all were able to see some of the meteor shower. We were able to just get in a little time and see a few but it was still nice.

Talk

Well, I am going to try it one more time. Check out the info below to find out more. I think it would be cool to get some dialog going on any subject(s) relating to the 60's and 70's.

With this new message board, you can view discussion topics quickly in the left-hand column and read up to 20 messages at a time. You can even attach files (such as pictures and programs) directly to messages -- just like e-mail.

As the Forum "Host", I manage the specific features of the Forum. Other options include real-time Chat, announcements, and custom web pages.

This is a public forum so anyone can participate, so feel free to tell your friends.

The best way into this forum is at the following URL:

> http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=KOTRV

or the by using the

button on the main KOTRV home page.

> http://www.vipgrafx.com/hippy/hippy.html

In order to provide personalized services and access control, you'll need to go through a quick registration if you've never used Delphi before. It only takes a minute and it's free!

I'm would like to hear any comments and suggestions you might
have.

Let's get the conversation started!
Jump in!
Express yourself!

A small Survey

What was the best all time drum solo from the time frame?

Send your answer, opinion, educated guess, etc.. to mailto:hippy@vipgrafx.com - use subject survey.

Results to be posted next newsletter.

Rick, thanks for the idea.

More fluff... less stuff...

So, warm up the lava lamp, flip on the black light, discover the ugliest part of your body with Frank and the Mothers, put on your love beads, your headband, bell bottomed pants, put a flower in your hair, get yourself in the proper state of mind, kick back, and experience the rest of the newsletter.

Free Will

Man is a masterpiece of creation if for no other reason than that, all the weight of evidence for determinism notwithstanding, he believes he has free will.

G. C. Lichtenberg

CONTRIBUTIONS

Please feel free to add your 2 cents worth - share your
thoughts, feelings, and general good-times. We would all love
to hear from you! Send your comments to:
mailto:hippy@vipgrafx.com

Send reply to: <elliot@clarityconnect.com>
From: "Elliot Niman" <elliot@clarityconnect.com>
To: <hippy@vipgrafx.com>
Subject: The VietNam War
Date sent: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:11:22 -0500

Michael Loret de Mola, a student at UVA Charlottesville, prompted me to respond. In the last newsletter, Michael asked folks to expound on the VietNam war, which he is studying. Also, I want to share my thoughts and experiences with all of you younger folks who follow this list, who are trying to get a feel as to what life was really like in "the sixties", but who were not born then.

My name is Elliot, and I was born in 1953. That means that I was 14 years old when the VietNam "conflict" really started to heat up. When I was 18 years old, the rules on the draft were changed, and student deferments were eliminated. I participated in the first draft lottery. All days of the year were assigned a random number, from 1 to 365. The number assigned to your birthday was your draft lottery number. Rumor had it that numbers lower than 120 would be going to VietNam (no ifs, ands, buts or deferments). Numbers higher than 200 were safe. Other numbers were questionable. Happily for me, my number was 272 - a number (and a day) that I will never forget. The lottery was televised, and of course, everyone watched it. A couple of my floormates from Massena, New York got real low numbers, I recollect, and that was quite a shock. So, my perspective is that of a "dove" who didn't come close at all to going to 'Nam.

The one fact that I want to impress on everyone who did not live through this is how intensely divisive this issue was, and how fractious the country was then. There was no middle ground on this issue. Also, it was immediately obvious where you stood on the issue. There were straights vs. freaks, longhairs vs. squares, etc. One camp was rock and roll, long hair, tie-dye t-shirts & jeans, and the other camp was short hair, muzak, button-down. At first, the doves were only a "radical" minority. Gradually, though, the anti-war sentiment grew and grew, until it became the prevalent opinion. This was accomplished in the streets - through demonstrations, and political activism.

One other thing - history has been re-written. Today, I am 45 years old - old enough to remember what happened during the war. I can say that none of what I read in newspapers about the war (and about the times in general) is anything close to accurate. The impression that I get from the papers today is that the war was an unfortunate mistake, and that we should have "won" the war and got it over with. Well, let me tell you - there was no way that war could have been "won" - there was no victory to be had. We had no allies, and no cause to fight for. Our goal was to prop up a non-representative dictatorship. Our stated goal was the domino theory - if South Viet Nam became communist, then all of Southeast Asia would go, and then, presumably the rest of the world. Even then, I recognized that as a bunch of hooey. Not all that many years later, the Red Menace has completely evaporated. Do you get that impression from the media - that the war was completely wrong, the product of special interests in this country? I certainly don't.

One other thing - in my early years, I learned that, beyond the shadow of a doubt, my government was lying to everyone. Flat out lying. Every single day, on the news, we'd get reports on the war, that would claim things like "365 North Viert Namese Army regulars were killed, and 2,350 were wounded, while 12 Americans were killed and 63 wounded". Every day, we got counts like that. And yet, the war continued - we didn't win. How could it be? The only conclusion was that my government was fabricating the whole thing, with the complicity of the print and broadcast media.

I hope that my thoughts help to convey the feel of what those times were like. Let's learn from the past....

From: "Flower Child & Zephyr" <nternet@c2i2.com>
To: <hippy@vipgrafx.com>
Subject: Enjoy the Rainbow Family Via Email -- WELCOME HOME!!
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:34:39 -0700

Hello, my friends, Flower Child here. I would like to recommend a lively discussion newsgroup called alt.gathering.rainbow. With deep roots in the 60's and 70's, The Rainbow Family of Living Light is still going strong today with annual national gatherings of upwards of 20,000 people each July, and with local and regional gatherings, potlucks, drum circles, and get-togethers throughout the year. A tiny portion of the Rainbow Family finds itself communicating in many ways daily on the newsgroup. I'd like to recommend to you to check it out. Without subscribing, you can look in on the newsgroup from http://dejanews.com . Click on "Power Search," fill out "Forum" with "alt.gathering.rainbow" (without the quotes), then click "Find" and you will be presented with the messages to browse thru, the latest ones listed first and then older messages. If you like it, you can subscribe conveniently for free as follows:

EMAIL
There is an email based discussion group called alt.gathering.rainbow. Each single email message sent to this email address gets sent to all subscribers on our list. This is the simplest way of discussing Rainbow-oriented issues with others, and seeing fun messages on the latest
regionals.

TO SUBSCRIBE to the email version of alt.gathering.rainbow send email to
gathering-request@conf.welcomehome.org. No subject is required. The body of the message should contain the line "Subscribe gathering <your email address>"

TO UNSUBSCRIBE to the email version of alt.gathering.rainbow send email to
gathering-request@conf.welcomehome.org. No subject is required. The body of the message should contain the line "Unsubscribe gathering <your email address>" where the email address is the same one you subscribed with.

TO POST a message to the email version (which will also be gatewayed into the newsgroup) send your message to gathering@conf.welcomehome.org.

Save these instructions somewhere so you can share with friends or unsubscribe easily later on.

Loving you, Flower Child from alt.gathering.rainbow
http://www.c2i2.com/~nternet

P.S. I was there during the summer of love but I still feel like a flower child who would be content to run around barefooted on well-worn microvillage paths, climb and hang and swing on trees, wade thru slate-bottomed creeks, love all the life around me even the little bugs, build and live in little microhouses not much bigger than a piano shipping crate, have platforms up in the trees to see the sunsets from and the stars at night with a big old mattress up there behind my head, and also have a virtual life with my computer and Internet where I correspond with lots of friends--to me that's the life! Running around on the desert, doing art, staying strong and desert-tough, and still participating in the world wide human conversation going on at this time....Working over the Web, I love it, I'm excited, later,
Flower Child. #

From: "Sky" <sky@blueplanet.net>
To: "Keep on Truckin Re-Visited" <hippy@vipgrafx.com>
Subject: new subscriber
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:55:58 -0600

Hi there...ahh, to be one of those sixties teenagers (i feel blessed!)...nice to bump into this site..and this maillist... mewonders how many and who all are here and have ya'll been talking bout anything in particular lately. What's been happenin?

Blessings & Dreams,
Sky
sky@blueplanet.net
ICQ: 20723905

Drugs

A drug is neither moral nor immoral-it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole.

Frank Zappa

BATIK-ML - Batik Mailing List

BATIK-ML on majordomo@bear-buys.com Batik Painting, Batik and Tie Dye Processes

BATIK-ML is an unmoderated discussion list devoted to batik painting, batik and tie dye processes. Batik procedure consists of :

1) preparing and designing the fabric;
2) melting wax;
3) using the dyes,overdyeing, crackling;
4) removing wax and fixing color.

All topics related to batik, batik painting, supplies, designs, dyes, web sites, processes etc. are considered to be on topic.

To subscribe to BATIK-ML, send the following command to:

majordomo@bear-buys.com

In the body of the e-mail message:

subscribe BATIK-ML

Owner: Albert Buys <abuys@jersey.net>

SIMPLE-TIMES on Lyris@XC.ORG
Frugality, Simple Living Newsletter

Published semi-monthly

This e-mail newsletter is dedicated to the pursuit of simple living. The express purpose of The Simple Times is to provide inspiration, encouragement, motivation and practical help for those who (for whatever reasons) are choosing to simplify their lives.

This publication will hopefully appeal to people from a wide array of backgrounds and lifestyles: working parents, single folks, stay-at-home moms (and dads, too!), homeschooling families, voluntary simplicity adherents, "involuntary" simplicity (due to corporate lay-offs, stagnant wages, etc.), or anyone else who would like their life to be less busy, less cluttered, less complicated or less expensive.

Whether your personal definition of simple living focuses on saving money for your regular family expenses (food, clothing, utilities, etc.); saving time and energy through easier house-keeping and cooking techniques; or moving to the country to homestead your own little piece of heaven, The Simple Times should prove to be fun and helpful.

Regular topics will include:
~ Frugality
~ Simplified housekeeping
~ Decluttering tips
~ Enriching (and inexpensive) educational ideas for children
~ Using leftovers
~ Freezer meals (recipes, tips, questions and answers)
~ Inexpensive, creative and simple recipes
~ Food prep and storage
~ Shopping tips
~ Questions and answers
~ Craft projects (for kids and adults)
~ Letters from readers
~ Interviews
~ Recommended resources
~ Book reviews

To subscribe, send a blank message:
mailto:subscribe-simple-times@xc.org

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. Martyrdom is the test.

Samuel Johnson

We who officially value freedom of speech above life itself seem to have nothing to talk about but the weather.

Barbara Ehrenreich

Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.

John Milton

The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum.

Adlai Stevenson

Marks on paper are free - free speech-press-pictures all go together I suppose.

Georgia O'Keeffe

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.

Noam Chomsky

Stranger in a Strange Land
by Robert A. Heinlein

By suggestion - read this book way back when. It is worth checking out.
Amazon.com
Stranger in a Strange Land, winner of the 1962 Hugo Award, is the story of Valentine Michael Smith, born during, and the only survivor of, the first manned mission to Mars. Michael is raised by Martians, and he arrives on Earth as a true innocent: he has never seen a woman and has no knowledge of Earth's cultures or religions. But he brings turmoil with him, as he is the legal heir to an enormous financial empire, not to mention de facto owner of the planet Mars. With the irascible popular author Jubal Harshaw to protect him, Michael explores human morality and the meanings of love. He founds his own church, preaching free love and disseminating the psychic talents taught him by the Martians. Ultimately, he confronts the fate reserved for all messiahs.

We're Only In It For The Money
Frank Zappa & The Mothers...

Category - Rock/Pop
Original Year - 1968
Producer - Frank Zappa
Running Time - 39 Minutes

Album Notes:
Full performer name: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention. Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention: Frank Zappa (guitar, piano, vocals); Bunk Gardner (woodwinds); Euclid James "Motorhead" Sherwood (soprano & baritone saxophones); Ian Underwood (piano, woodwinds); Roy Estrada (electric bass, vocals); Billy Mundi (drums, vocals); Jimmy Carl Black (drums, trumpet, vocals); Suzy Creamcheese, Dick Barber. Additional personnel includes: Gary Kellgren (vocals), Eric Clapton. Recorded between August and October, 1967. Originally released on Verve. All songs written by Frank Zappa. The early Zappa albums were treasured by the few and totally misunderstood by the majority. The brilliant satire of the Sgt. Pepper cover should have garnered extra sales, but no. Zappa's scathing wit homed in on modern middle-class America and the west coast hippies. Nineteen vignettes of avant garde, doo-wop, some regular pop music and a lot of hilarious dialogue, which was so hip it has never dated. Zappa made us confront the obvious, and the results were alarming. These issues are best demonstrated on 'What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body', 'Bow Tie Daddy' and 'The Idiot Bastard Son'.

Tracks & Listings

1	Are You Hung Up?
2	Who Needs The Peace Corps?
3	Concentration Moon
4	Mom & Dad
5	Telephone Conversation
6	Bow Tie Daddy
7	Harry, You're A Beast
8	What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body?
9	Absolutely Free
10	Flower Punk
11	Hot Poop
12	Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
13	Let's Make The Water Turn Black
14	Idiot Bastard Son, The
15	Lonely Little Girl
16	Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
17	What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise)
18	Mother People
19	Chrome Plated Megaphone Of Destiny, The

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